"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast number of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
-- Author Unknown
I could have written this myself- maybe I should co-opt it?! -ZK
This comment expresses disdain for one of the original and strong pillars of conservatism - faith in the people who get up and express their opinions, based on their experience, in response to the times.
Posted by: math | 04/11/2010 at 12:57 PM
I disagree math, you are discounting the statement on its face and the author as well.
Posted by: Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB | 04/11/2010 at 01:26 PM
Zak, Shalom, you are 100% right on in posting this, this man is horrible. People need to WAKE UP!
Posted by: cancangirl | 04/11/2010 at 08:24 PM
I agree (and have said that often myself but no one listens). I still vividly remember the day the messiah was annointed amid frenzied jubilation (and before I'd unearthed a conservative sect on Vox). Everyone and I mean EVERYONE on Vox was celebrating ... writing about how they'd cried and were so proud and how far America had come and yada yada yada. I couldn't take it. I hung a Gone Fishin' sign at my blog, shut down the computer and went to do ANYTHING else to escape the stupidity of the American masses and by the end of the day I was drunk and crying. And I assure, they were *not* tears of joy. I'll never forget it or how utterly outnumbered I was on Vox ....
Posted by: Waterbaby | 04/11/2010 at 10:33 PM
thats the only gift of obama,he knocked people out of their apathy,now that we have socialists,marxists.communists in the white house,they are fighting to recapture their country.the creeping of socialist stagnation is now in the limelight,may it never happen again.
Posted by: ken | 04/13/2010 at 04:32 PM
Zak. You are too much of a speaker and rhetorician. You should know better. There is a difference between dismissing a speaker or statement versus pointing out that there is a big problem at the level of assumption, and at the level of history of thought. Whether or NOT this anonymous and repetitive writer is correct, it is still a problem that his opinion is "dismissive" of the election in which Obama was elected. How conservative is it of him (or you) to say that the electorate is crazy or dumb?
Posted by: math | 04/13/2010 at 06:38 PM
Funny I said the same thing about W.
Posted by: Maureen Kirk-Detberner | 04/13/2010 at 08:43 PM
You weren't wrong. "George W Bush is LBJ with a human face." --Zak Klemmer
Posted by: Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB | 04/13/2010 at 09:08 PM
Ha, you made me laugh...I didn't like LBJ either!
Posted by: Maureen Kirk-Detberner | 04/13/2010 at 09:22 PM
[this is good] :-)
Posted by: Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB | 04/13/2010 at 09:31 PM
Obama ran a fraudulent campaign in that he didn't campaign on his ideology but on some bland message of: “we need reform”, what couldn't use a little reform? His appointments and all his czars paint a different picture- then there is the tyrannical way the Democratic Party runs congress. I know that Chris Buckley is an idiot for supporting him and any one else that doesn't subscribe to the Weather Underground movement.
Posted by: Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB | 04/18/2010 at 04:01 PM
Maureen, they ALL stink, that much is certain.
Posted by: cancangirl | 04/19/2010 at 04:00 PM
THAT is exactly what Savage is saying right now
Posted by: cancangirl | 04/19/2010 at 04:01 PM
Well I started politicking in 1964 & keep my own counsel.
Posted by: Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB | 04/19/2010 at 06:45 PM
Mr. Anonymous is of course repeating ancient wisdom. Étienne de La Boétie, for example, wrote as much in the 16th century in his excellent little monograph
The Politics of Obedience
.
There are some days, I suppose the bad ones, where I agree with conservative scholar Paul Gottfried: "the government [we have] is far better than the masses actually merit."
In regards to the question of if this sentiment is "anti-conservative," I fail to see why. (Why, is conservatism a pure replica of the Enlightenment now?!) It is simply not true to say that A. J. Nock, R. Kirk, E. v. Kuehnelt-Leddihn, R. Weaver, or others of a similar-mind had faith in the masses----or the "herd mentality." Even young W. Buckley can be included. (And, yes, I am aware of the famous counter-example saying of his that is often quoted.) Distrust in uncultivated human nature, deriving from Original Sin, is seen in their work. Men are not naturally good or naturally virtuous, after all. They are not naturally educated or wise. It takes cultivation and maintenance. And like Jefferson, they supported a "natural aristocracy." Quality and not quantity is of the essence; faith in the people, or democracy, is not. To be sure, while what I say might not apply to many modern day conservatives, such as Limbaugh and those that admire him, it is nonetheless accurate within much of traditional conservatism.
Isn't John Derbyshire calling for a return to conservative pessimism? Maybe his advice should be taken, and I say that as someone who is not strictly speaking a conservative (although, maybe a "fusionist"). The masses give us Bush and Obama. That's reason enough to become a pessimist.
Posted by: Paleo | 04/26/2010 at 08:32 AM
On the point of LBJ's 'face'..The 'Great Society' did not go down to well in some areas..I had a major..OC of where I was in the USAF..at the time..his name was Newsome..named in house..Gruesom Newsome..he bore an uncanny resemblance to Mr. Johnson..Peace Tony
Posted by: Cryin' for the Dyin' | 05/10/2010 at 12:11 PM