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05/08/2010

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Cryin' for the Dyin'

Professor Olson, in life it seems, had knowledge and ability to facilitate and use the Dept. of Statistics Abstract..for the U.S.  Statistics are not human and many times reflect nothing.  These, in context of voting are non sequiturs. New Or leans at one time had the highest V.D. rate in the world.  That does not make them sexually aberrant or irresponsible.

Considering the irresponsible and criminal actions of many money lenders, banks and S+L types..bad loans in conspiracy to steal land and other possessions..then calling it 'smart'..I respect a land owner but I take a look at how they got it.

For me Zak it is this simple..If the constitution holds..the economy will hold..Immigration 'legality' is a matter of paperwork.  The majority of Americans are sons or at least decended from other parts of the 'melting pot' ethnicity in the United States.  The constituion makes it clear that bigotry is not acceptable..and any error of symantics was taken to task in 'Brown vs The Kansas Board of Education'. 

The expense in denial of citizenship and any hope for same is prohibitive.. it will do nothing but cause trouble (more than it already has).  No one is going to leave quietly.  A police action is exactly that. 

Historical reflection tells us oppression does not work.  My eyes and other sense tells me the same.  Each of those 'criminals' is a victim to some extent.  I would like to help make them fulfilled people..here or in their land of birth.  Here they have rights..or should..low income..or aid..is preferrable to greed and impatience..

Actually there is so much..just in simple basics and decency..aside from the 'American promise and constitution'..I could write ten books.  The intricacies of law are invalid if unconstitutional.  Peace Tony

ken

that reagan,bush,clinton,bush didn't understand this is amazing,its sort of like oj's car chase, slow, but a car chase none the less,we are being invaded by mexico.and they are all sitting on their hands.

Cryin' for the Dyin'

I do not want to get into a thing on O.J.  I would like to say..despite the fact he could afford good representation..I know him to be legally innocent.  The Bronco..in which they found blood..sat on the streets for days where anyone could get to it.  Called 'tainted fruit'.  His bedroom, which was neat as a pin, was ransacked illegally by LAPD.  Further..the places..like on the gate in the rear of the home..supposedly blooded..were clean..I have photos.  I did investigate this case.  I felt I had to know.  You may not want to accept this Ken..but I firmly believe the jury came in with the right verdict.  I think Mr. Goldman in his grief was blinded and then commited.  The 'law suit' that followed the trial..was a political travesty of nothing more than color blind hatred. There were only eight jurors..all white women.I knew some of the prinipals in the murder case..the prosecutor..and her husband..from high school.  O.J. did not have time to do it.  The fact the police investigators lied..the fact it took the criminalist 151/2 hrs. to get to the bodies..and it was their first murder case..makes tainted evidence.  Men do not stab a little at a time.  I think it was done by a woman or possibly two..I further think Mr. Simpson was protecting someone.  The LAPD and others, probably fearing a lawsuit, were horribly vindictive.  One of their investigators was convicted of purjory.  He was also a bigot.  The judge did not allow all the tape recordings of the writer from N.Carolina..who had interviewed Ferman for a book.  She said he, Ferman,  scared her and had to be extradited to testify.  I saw every day of that trial. 

This may be overreaction..but it was such a bad deal..a conspiricy that went wild.  The clutural race-reaction from the population was dismally poor.  They framed him..and when it did not work..they took everything he had.  Just like a small child in a marble game.  If he was going to kill his wife he would have done it much sooner.  Statistics, if you like those, back me up on that.  The chance that he would do violence to her..decreased in dramatic fashion with every passing moment they were separated.  Done venting..So sorry..but that political action is a sore point with me.  If you are interested in justice..know the killer is still running around out there.  A lot of things the jury was told to ignore..seemed to be grounds for dismissal..now I have to stop..it goes on and on..a terrible thing for his whole family..ruined his life..Peace Tony

Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB

I think O J was guilty.

lauowolf

Excuse me, but, um.
Really?
Last I looked we had 50 states, 19 = 29 = 48.
Besides that, here is yer basic 2008 election states won results: McCain 22, Obama 28.

When the first "fact" is not only wrong, but also based on the the country circa 1958, I really have to bail.

Think I can ignore this one.

(*Square miles of land won" what does this have to do with anything?)

lauowolf

Oh, BTW.
If you go to the website of Hamline University, go to the School of Law, click on faculty, click on Professor Joseph Olson's full profile, you will find this statement:
DISCLAIMER: There are a series of e-mails floating around the
internet dealing with the 2008 Obama/McCain election and the 2000
Bush/Gore election, remarks of a Scottish philosopher named Alexander
Tyler, suicide rates, or ANYTHING ELSE.  I did not author any part of
either email.  I've been trying to kill this falacy for nearly 10
years.  I didn't have any part of it in 2000 and I still have no part
of the email in regards to the 2008 election.  For details see: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp.


ken

the oj thing is old history,i was just saying that even though he was in a slow motion car chase he was still in a car chase,with the same laws being broken,much like the invasion by mexico into america,its still a invasion and should be treated as such...

Inside_Passage

What amnesty? Last bill for amnesty I heard of was under Bush and it was soundly rejected. That was -before- the recession started getting into full swing. I can't imagine anyone's mind changing.

Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB

If you support the status quo either Bush, McCain or Obama you are willing to excange individual liberty for government debt and the chains of taxation to service said debt.

Cryin' for the Dyin'




Then you did not study the case..today is mother's day..I love my mother..she thought O.J. was guilty..do you know they did not have any blood until after his arrest?  They take blood when one is arrested.  Most of the people by statistic..because that is a ready source of info..when pertinent..who thought he was guilty..where women..bigots..or predisposed people who think all blacks are criminals.  I did not make the case..I do not know O.J. past his wonderful record as an athlete and accomplished person.  F. Lee Bailey was arrested and did jail time, months after the trial..for making a remark on Television.  In that same time..he remarked 'They lost the case as soon as they went over the wall'..Re..fourth ammendment violations.  Johnny Cochran is dead!  Around the same time Bernie Mac, Morgan Freeman and Isaac Hays died in one weekend..all in good health..all of natural causes.  Here is a stat. that is credible..I do not believe in coincidence.  There is no way he could have been legally guilty.  There were too many contaminations of evidence.  If you truely look at the case..look at the testimony of the man on the balcony across Bundy..from the condo.  Every night..this man..sighted and sane..went out after the world news..on his balcony to allow his dog a moment..He saw..no Bronco..No Bentley..he did see..a dark green or blue 4 door Matador..a car favored by the LAPD.  Ferman was first detective on the scene.  He was off duty.  The response alone contanimated the crime scene.  50 plus cops.  There are news films.  There is no doubt in my mind it was a conspiricy.  Sometimes I think they do this just to see what people will swallow.  You are entitled to your opinion..if you want to make it a considered opinion..study the case.  Most law enforcement people and lawyers I have spoken with about it..6 comibined..after the case..personally think along the lines of coverup and conspirisy..Peace Tony 


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Understood and thank you..It is just I spent months of my life and was willing to accept the truth either way..I just had to know..Peace Tony

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Hello..Good work..the truth is always preferrable..even if it is not as expected..most say that..I hope they all believe it..Peace Tony

Inside_Passage

Where on earth did you get the idea that I accept the status quo? I don't like how things are now, but I don't accept the reasoning that the ends justify the means, either, particularly when those means attack the rights of American citizens while attempting (and failing) to deal with the problem of illegal immigration.

math

[this is good] Zak, political "SCIENCE" is the discipline of abandoning real knowledge in order to justify and maintain the status quo. Olsen seems to be an expert scientist in this "science". While tacitly attacking the current resident of the White House, he is clearly, avidly, and stubbornly pushing a status quo that might be out of date, and at least is out of fashion. What does he want? He wants everything to be the way it USED to be, in his convenient fabrication of history. 

ken

as far as o.j. it had very little to do with black vs. white it was more men vs. women, there are plenty of police and judges that turn a blind eye to this kind of crime,if you find a guy sleeping with your women what comes his way he had coming,in part thanks to the oj trial thats no longer accepted policy.

Cryin' for the Dyin'

Hello..I do not understand what you mean..Mark Ferman busted O.J. for 'wife battering'..the charges were reduced..quite realistically to 'disturbing the peace' or some other minor misdomeaner.  There is ample evidence that Ferman was dating Nicole more than once.  It was not allowed in the trial.  Considering the evidence that was allowed I was surprised.  Judge Ito was new to the Superior Court bench.  Another surprise. 

History and fact are the same no matter how much time goes by. Firsthand it is usually credible.  It was a long time ago..Look at us now..quality in education..quality in reality..quality in medicine..is bad for society..much worse than immigrants..good schools make educated immigrants..I apologize for the typos in my comment..IE 'conspiricy'..Peace Tony

Cryin' for the Dyin'




correction  to last comment..2nd to last sentence..should be..'lack' of quality in education..'lack' of quality in schools..'lack of quality in medicine..is bad for society..much worse than immigrants..good schools make for educated immigrants..I apologize..my lesson..for myself..once again..'No matter how passionately I feel..a misrepresentation is a crime in itself"..so never hurry..Peace Tony


Cryin' for the Dyin'




I put an addendum to this comment..a correction..In the 2nd to the last sentence I meant to say..'lack' of quality in education..'lack' of quality in reality..'lack' of quality in medicine..is bad for society..further..if I were writing it now..I would use 'availability'..rather than 'quality'..Peace Tony


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