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06/05/2010

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Freedom Smith

Great list.  Very eye opening.

Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB

In my view LBJ continues to be the most evil and dangerous US President.

ken

up until now we've had presidents that did lousy jobs but were proud of their country,now we have one thats doing a lousy job and hates this country.

koan911

I'll take the liberty of translating this post into "English for reasonable people".


The Top Two Reasons why Barack Obama May Be the Second-Worst President Ever.


1.  He is a Democrat.2.  The War Criminal George Bush XVIII is indisputably The Worst President Ever.

:)

[You didn't think I was going to let it go, did you, Zak?  :)]

Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB

No K9- LBJ was the turning point. :)

Cordially,

Z. A. K.

koan911

Actually, I can live with that.  I think that JFK was the end of the line.

I am no longer comparing politicians or party philosophies.  Future presidents were given a very clear warning in November, 1963, and democracy has been headed downhill ever since.

That's again why I think it is now pointless to speak about the performance of any particular politician.  Only a systemic view reveals anything profound.

Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB

LBJ murdered Federalism and the "Great Society" [sic] accelerated the entitlements in Federal spending. Can America recover lost liberties?

koan911

Can America recover lost liberties?

To do so will require people to stand together and identify common foes.

And I guarantee you there is nothing you can say to "progressives" that will turn them into conservatives, (just as you are not changing sides any time soon).

Would you like me to illustrate that for you with diagrams?  OK, you are not going to change from your conservative views because you believe you are right.  (Am I right?)  And they (the progressives) are not going to change from their progressive views because they are "magic thinkers", (mentally 7 years old), who believe that willing it so will make it so.  (Am I right?)  This is why I very rarely critique the progressive view of things.

Am I right.  So that means you are pissing into a headwind with your party and personality politics.  Am I not wrong?  That means you are NOT helping the cause.  Now, in this world, Zak, as you know, there is only one thing you have the power to change and that is what YOU are doing.  Please think about this carefully.

Now to be constructive, you and your fellow Americans have some common enemies.  That is and should be a focal point.  Am I again not wrong, Zak?

Stop worrying about what happens when you get to the other side of the raging brook and get in the canoe with your fellows and start paddling for the other side.  Together.

The name of your common enemy is Greed.  Or sometimes it goes by the name, Power Lust.  [A hint, Zak: it's not your progressive friends, i.e. those who vote Democrat, who are benefiting from anything unfolding.]
Rosemead Herald

Your number 5 is right on.  It is amazing that Americans are not more upset at Obama's antics.


5. Rather then using transparency (which he promised) and persuasion to obtain support from the American People he attacks and demonizes his critics.

 

John
10. He ran a fraudulent campaign running as a moderate while he is actually a hard left ideologue.
Care to give an example of his supposed "hard left ideology"?

9. He holds too many press conferences speaking vague generalities.
And this differs from previous presidents how, exactly?

8. He received the Nobel Prize before accomplishing anything.
That reflects more on the Nobel committee than it does on him. If you offer any politician a million bucks and a global audience, do you think they'll turn it down?

7. Too many “Czars” without the advice and consent of the governed or their representatives in congress.
Return of the kitchen cabinet?

6. He has a hidden agenda, which he never explained to the American People all the while promising transparency.
And your evidence for this hidden agenda is what, exactly?

5. Rather then using transparency (which he promised) and persuasion to obtain support from the American People he attacks and demonizes his critics.
When has he done this? And how would doing so differ from Bush43's team?

4. While he speaks about the virtue of working hard and playing by the rules he appoints people who are tax cheats.
Yep. And then withdraws them once their status becomes known. In the meantime, he pays at nearly the legal maximum on his own taxes (as did Bush43).
 
3. His appointments to Federal Courts and the US Supreme Court may work to undermine our rights protected by our constitution.
And Bush43's appointments have been doing so.

2. He continues the policies of George W. Bush, i.e., giving the Fed more power and increasing Federal spending while continuing to blame President Bush. Will he ever accept responsibility for his actions?
Will the legacy of Bush43 ever end? We are still in the recession that Bush43 created with his spendthrift laissez faire policies (albeit, we are almost out of it). We are still fighting the two wars that Bush43 started.

1. He fiddled while Washington burned- the Democrat leadership in Congress continues to ramrod laws to destroy individual rights while he holds another press conference rather then taking any responsibility or making his administration transparent.
And this differs from life with a Republican majority how, exactly? Either side will abuse power once they have it, and both sides have.

Hate Obama if you will, but at least hate him for the things that he does that are different from the typical politician. For the rest, hate the system (and work to change it!).

John
Cryin' for the Dyin'



You said it..I will stick with 'desperation implies hope'..after all..the man may have deserved the Nobel Prize..simply by following asshat..Peace T.

Cryin' for the Dyin'

Returning back to my rebuilt PCS barracks on the morning after JFK got whacked..I could not believe it..I heard one guy say something amidst the confused yelling, crying, there was no cheering.  He said..'Don't put anyone on a pedistal..he only killed a man'..

As to who did it?  My favorite suspect is Castro.  If the whole story of 'how we were betrayed' and how it really happened are studied..the manipulation of Oswald becomes more apparent.

On the same type of thing..'The Last Best Hope' RFK..well, he insulted J. Edgar Hoover..you know the thing about a woman scorned..Peace Tony

Cryin' for the Dyin'

Hello..It always is in the mirror..my clear thinking friend..The lables..the histories..mean very little to a hungry child..a curable sick person..how can there be money for wars?..they ask..more intelligently than those who justify destruction..or 'philosiphise disgrace'..

Yes it is greed..no matter how justified..I said in a comment yesterday..and I stand by it..'how can anyone, do anything, or plan anything that is abhorrent firsthand?'  It was in response the the obviously planned ferry disaster that is commented..not a quantifiable disaster..unless you happened to die..or be seriously injured there..Peace Tony

Trailblazer

[this is good] Some who voted for him are now catching on to his socialist agenda. I suspect some are too embarrassed to admit it and the rest are still waiting for their chickens in their pots. However, I think they will be coming home to roost first.

Emmi

Number 9, Zak, pretty much says it all. This is virtually the defenition of why right-wingers may never run this country again.

He holds too many press conferences speaking vague generalities.

And yet....here you are, (or whoever wrote this), speaking in the most outrageous generalities and with no examples or evidence to boot. With the exception of Number 8, the rest of the list is hypocritical in light of Number 9.

These childlish ranting lists are fine for a day's blog, but as K9 said, don't expect this to do anything good except a sermon to the choir.

ps http://www.sierranevada.com/beers/torpedo.html

(If you like strong beer). 

Emmi

And I guarantee you there is nothing you can say to "progressives" that will turn them into conservatives, (just as you are not changing sides any time soon).

....or maybe it's because many of us are already conservatives. It's time for the real Conservatives to take back the word. I'm happy to give examples - but the current right wing are extremists, not realistic citizens who could run a country.

And they (the progressives) are not going to change from their progressive views because they are "magic thinkers", (mentally 7 years old), who believe that willing it so will make it so.

Again, I'm baffled by this. Examples?

Waterbaby

Spot on.

YELP

yes it is

The Madmouser

[this is good] Both of you are right, but (monkey),(you have to be a Laura Ingraham fan),

Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB

John: When have I ever supported the Bushes publicly?

 

Just read about Obama's back ground, his tactics, writings- who his friends are: Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, etc. All this is pretty obvious to anyone who would open their eyes.

 

You might want to read "The Destructive Generation" by David Horowitz or "Radical Son" Horowitz's Autobiography. He was a participant and witness.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground

 

 

Zak Klemmer, ACS, ALB

Pick up a copy of the US Constitution and read it carefully, especially Artical 1, section 8. Besides running up debts that can never be repaid the US Government is morally and ethically bankrupt. It's not about Left or Right as these lables have lost any real meaning in my poinion,

Rosemead Herald

ZAK - You are right about Obama and his tactics, friends, and writing.  He has bamboozled and hoodwinked Americans.  He is probably laughing at how he fooled the American people into thinking that he was akin to the Messiah.   

John

When have I ever supported the Bushes publicly?

Hey - all I am saying is "sauce for the goose". You could substitute "Bush43" for "Obama" throughout your screed without changing the truth level one iota.

Just read about Obama's back ground, his tactics, writings- who his friends are: Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, etc. All this is pretty obvious to anyone who would open their eyes.

And you could write a jeramiad with the opposite polarity about Obama and be just as accurate. You are conlfating your hatred for where this country has been headed by its politicos since the days of Reagan with a specific person. Doing so focuses you on the wrong thing. Obama is not the problem - the current system is. NB: By this, I mean not representative democracy and not a free market, but their extremes of mobocracy (as evidenced by the current extremism on both sides) and laissez faire (except when we need a bailout) commercialism.

You might want to read "The Destructive Generation" by David Horowitz or "Radical Son" Horowitz's Autobiography. He was a participant and witness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground

For every Horowitz, there is a McVeigh. People on both ends of the spectrum get disillusioned and move to their polar opposites (what is it about these morons that they are incapable of living in the happy medium?).

John

koan911

Just rhetorical.  You either get it or you don't.  The overall point is that Red and Blue railing at each other is a mutually-losing proposition.

I've been trying to dissuade people doing it, (being divided and being conquered), but have concluded that that also is a losing proposition.

John

Yanno, I forgot the number one reason why Obama is not America's worst president ever: Obama never committed treason as Reagan did. By selling arms to the Iranians (who then used them to kidnap Americans tso that they could get more arms), Reagan meets the Constitutional definition of treason:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

While his partner is treason, Ollie North, did confess to it in open court (and escaped on a technicality), Reagan did not. And so he escaped his due punishment. Nevertheless, his treason makes him the worst president ever.

John

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